Amboss internal medicine shelf reddit Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. You also I did not particularly use Amboss QBank; I just used the Library. Most of the exam is just your typical COMLEX style 1st order question, you either know it or you don't. Scored really well, felt like Amboss covered it well. Keep your head down, keep working hard, and you've got this. Other than that I know the USPTF screening guidelines are important. AAFP gives you a good idea of how they think and the level of detail in amboss is more granular for family than UWorld so it’s helpful for the shelf. I was looking at the decks and wasn't sure which to pick for the shelf as there is none in specific. Internal Med was my last clerkship and I still have 250 IM shelf questions on Uworld and like 10-15 IM OME videos that I did not have a chance to finish. The things I thought were the most helpful were pestana and amboss. There were quite a bit more questions that amboss has for peds than Uworld. I know a lot of people typically use uworld, but I was watching some AnKing videos, in which he mentioned using amboss for shelf exams and uworld for Step 2 CK. My UWorld account expired and as a post-ERAS 4th year, I don’t feel super inclined to pay for 1 month access because it is $$$$. I did all the Im shelf uworld questions and took notes on most of the explanations to make sure things stuck So what I'm saying is, does the surgery shelf have a ton of medicine stuff where it's a pure medicine question and I have to literally know all of medicine for those big topics, or is it just general medicine info related to if someone needs Hey there, MS-4 here. This deck is heavily tagged based in organ system. Reddit's International Fire Alarm Technicians Sub Members Online. Prep for the Medicine Shelf with AMBOSS. For those who have taken the IM shelf this year, how was it? What advice do you have for students who haven’t taken it yet? What books and resources did you use and what did you ultimately wind up scoring? Anything is helpful! Thank you in advance. Only shelf I honored and really wished I used Amboss for the previous rotations of 3rd year. I was gonna do 1 hammer first to just make sure I got the foundation down but there are fuck ton of internal medicine shelf questions in Amboss. I’m on my first clerkship as a MS3 in a US allopathic school. Did you use other practice questions/Q banks besides Aquifer? Did you redo the questions in Aquifer? Looking back what would you do differently? Do you use Uworld or Amboss also? Compare with NBME shelf, is Aquifer harder or They tend to test some obscure things, and AMBOSS often covers them. Save yourself time, pain, and suffering. Hey guys just curious what to use to prepare for an EM shelf, I'm between AMBOSS and Rosh review. It has become Thank you for the posting. Many other students Hoping someone can shine some light on internal medicine shelf for me. Study methods -I am seeking advice about how to spend the next 4 -I have access to the full Amboss qbank, If knowledge base is what you need I recommend pile driving the Dorian IM shelf cards. So if shelf is Friday, on Wednesday I'd review ahead the cards for W-F. I've heard/read that Step-Up to Medicine is good. I did 1500 UWorld questions before switching and then about 2200 Amboss questions. 4090 in uworld. In fact, internal medicine is the most heavily emphasized specialty on Step 2 CK; given how important that exam is to your residency application, it makes sense to invest a significant amount of time in preparing for the Medicine Shelf. I found their platform to be user-friendly with succinct explanations with links to associated material. The consensus seems to be FM usually OVER estimates your shelf score by a little bit (5-15% last I checked around on Reddit and old forum threads) but there’s some variation. I was able to do that for all the clerkships except internal medicine. I find it unsettling to Ended up watching OnlineMedEd according to their family medicine schedule, made my own USPSTF flash cards, and glanced at the Ottawa ankle rules and some knee thing the day before the shelf. Internal Medicine: This is another exam that is known for being tough. Glad you killed it with the 86! That's awesome! As a side question, did you do all 800+ questions of Amboss family medicine? In general, I'm just under two weeks out from my internal medicine shelf exam. Do you guys think the ambulatory section of AMBOSS should be enough to prepare for the shelf? Any advice on how to study for this exam from anyone who’s taken it already? Internal Medicine; Obviously one of the tougher shelf exams of 3rd year (but very doable if you put in the necessary effort). If you are viewing this on the new Reddit layout, please take some time and look at our wiki I only have 4 weeks for family medicine rotation. I didn't get around to any incorrect questions but this is what I would prioritize doing instead of finishing the rest of the questions. Very helpful. difficult questions you get correct. The library is really convenient. Get ready to see MI, COPD, HF, GERD, dyspepsia, renal failure, HTN. I watched all the OME Medicine videos leading up to and during my IM clerkship. Should I do the 360 questions on the uworld section or should I do amboss family medicine questions? 🏥 Clinical There’s significant overlap between the Internal Medicine and Surgery Shelfs, and taking IM before Surgery—if possible—could help boost your score. No extra resources. I scored in the 93rd percentile for medicine and 90th percentile for surgery. The thing is that I haven`t even touch in medschool (neither in Step prep) the following topics: psychiatry, ethics, biochem, neuro and MSK ( this last 2, a bit of anatomy in medschool 2 years ago). sorry) Psychiatry UWORLD, OME, and AMBOSS. AMBOSS is also good for a quick overview of a disease while preparing for a surgery or a presentation. High yield for obgyn probably an hour long video - cover most stuffs, make So I started out using UWorld for my first 2 shelf exams (medicine and psych), and I switched over to use amboss for my upcoming shelf (peds) which I'll take at the end of the week. Up-To-Date is still preferred and my residency program also has an internal resource that provides help with clinical decision making which I use often. But seeing that amboss qbank questions are notorious for being difficult/ nit picky would it be practical to actually start amboss shelf/ step 2 qbank as soon as I start rotations or are are they too difficult and I should start with uworld instead or read the library first? I’m so lost in this respect pls help me guys 🙏 Internal Medicine Shelf Shelf is tomorrow, and I feel like I am no where close to being ready. Absolutely, I used Amboss instead of Uworld for my surgery shelf during clerkship. For example if the best IM book for shelf is step up 2 medicine. 23 questions. I am very dumb and not efficient compared to other people here who claim to only do 100-200 questions per shelf and post much higher scores. ADMIN MOD Medicine Shelf T - 4 weeks . ; Other components can be your shelf exam results and graded assignments. Got ~80 (and that’s on my first rotation after 5 years in a lab + 2-kid brainmelt, so anything I got right was 100% from those resources- if I had any leftover knowledge from Step Internal Medicine Shelf In 6 weeks 🏥 Clinical Title sums it up. Ambulatory chapter ( a must) 2. The depth of explanations in UWorld covers most if not all you’ll need for both of those exams. Ya I used it for internal as well and got an 88 (idk what percentile that is, they didn't tell us and I didn't bother looking it up). I'm working my way though UWorld and AMBOSS practice questions, but not performing as well as I'd like. I've also been told that if I don't do UWorld then I might as well jump into a black pit with spikes at the bottom, which is what I thought I did when I picked medicine as a career, but go figure. Amboss and Kaplan dominate the B2B environment and schools chuck the courses and Qbanks for free at their students, even though the students are better off just doing UWorld. AMBOSS NEJM Knowledge+ Family Medicine Board Review is guided by the ABFM exam blueprint, with information covering all the content you would expect. Starting family medicine which is my last clerkship of M3. I post this fully acknowledging I am in a decent spot heading into my shelf for IM from a passing standpoint. but I attribute that mostly to it being my first shelf of the year. Kristy Crowley - Aug 21, 2017 AMBOSS is happy to announce the launch of our full Medicine Shelf package, to be released later this month, containing 800 case-based questions and more rolling out in the coming weeks. No NBMEs. The MCAT (Medical College Admission Test) is offered by the AAMC and is a required exam for admission to medical schools in the USA and Canada. Did I think a little less than half of UWorld Medicine questions during the block (8 weeks). I’m not trying to break any records and get honors, but I would like to do well. Biostats & Social Sciences UWORLD, OME, and If you are viewing this on the new Reddit layout, please take some time and look at our wiki Any information on how UWorld or Amboss %s correlate to Shelf Percentiles? Wanted to know if anyone had any information on this stuff. Mostly internal medicine, surgery, and pediatrics, Some OB and psych sprinkled in. Just finished Step 1 and was looking into whether to use UWorld or AMBOSS (or both) as QBanks, and I'm thinking about using AMBOSS as a supplement to UWorld. The #1 social media platform for MCAT advice. I used AMBOSS throughout M3 to prepare for shelf exams and got honors grades on all of them. doctor’s license. The thyroid gets tested a lot, as well as breast masses sometimes. Thanks! Share Add a Comment. While it is passing, I am not close to honoring and am really trying to adjust my approach to IM and FM. I did make my complete own Peds deck, which I think was good for the shelf exam (and coincidentally, my best grade), but it was pretty much all long format (etiology, presentation, management, etc. Is the real deal like the practice nbmes? I plan on finishing all of the nbmes but wanted advice on what else to do leading up. 5 weeks from Step but I did Amboss before UWorld and ended up with 75% correct with a 92nd percentile; I'm pretty sure that Amboss percentiles will depend on the percentage of easy vs. After completing Uworld, do you think I should do AAFP or Amboss for Family Medicine Shelf? There are 1360 AAFP questions, so I will not be able to finish even if I start. But use uworld as a study resource not a testing method. I have done 900 uworld questions (64% avg) and have done 2 practice nbmes and scored in the 80s. I personally didn’t find that the FM NBMEs and UWorld/AMBOSS really emphasized the topics that are frequently taught in Ambulatory. helps you to think hard and fast about every q, and there are 2 wk codes floating around too which is great Shelf exams are in general, tough as hell. A lot of surgery is “medicine” in that sometimes the answer is to get a biopsy or do a thoracentesis or check TSH instead of taking the organ out. However, I did Amboss because it has an expire date. I didn’t realize this, but the shelf exams are pay to play. I felt like amboss was more helpful. I have taken all my shelf exams except IM and FM and I need guidance. This way I'd have IM: I used Step Up as well as Blueprints for Internal Medicine and also some notes from NBME that our clerkship director gave out to us. Then the last week I did the nbmes, most if not all of amboss, and some uworld incorrects if i could. Hi all ! I really love this thread and was wondering if I could get some thoughts on ONLY using AMBOSS + NBME exams for shelf preparation. Internal Medicine (ABIM®) Family Medicine (ABFM®) Pediatrics (ABP) Tell us which USMLE® Step or NBME® Shelf self-assessment you'd like to take next, and we'll make sure you find out when it's available. I scored a bit higher than the 70th percentile on the IM shelf but I scored a 55th percentile on the FM shelf. Is ExamGuru a good pick? UVA questions are in PDF format and the explanation is right there, so it's hard to do them in a legitimate way. I don't think I'll use any premed decks in ANKI for this shelf because there are so many cards and not a lot of time. I dont know if there is a different series for residency level but they have an intern bootcamp and some other resources. It breaks down how many test takers got a certain question topic, and it looked like 95% of the IM shelf I took a few months ago with a couple peds questions and 1-2 OBgyn Edit: i did only uworld IM with Tzanki medicine deck (didn’t finish either) and got 2 SD above mean. Shelf exams. AMBOSS needs the contact information you provide to us to contact you about our products and services. I think 85-90% (raw) of the exam is preppable, but the last 10-15% is random ass nonsense within crit care, neph, GI, or card medicine that is extremely hard to get right. This is destroying my confidence and I will likely have to drop out if I I keep seeing almost daily posts about what resources to use for what rotations. It shouldn't take any longer than five minutes to do this. Then before tests/Step 1 I did UW + weakness targeted AMBOSS. I am about to complete AMBOSS IM (~64%), have been mostly learning from doing questions. Thanks for the reply! I think the best anki decks are premade decks based on books that you are going to read. As a result, you can approach your assessment feeling prepared. That’s it. e. It’s tough because there’s a mix of medicine on there. In the shelf study mode it should also include medicine and other subjects that may show up on the shelf. ; See “Your grade and evaluation” in the “ Clerkship guide ” article for more information. Amboss is nitpicky and superfluous but superior to Kaplan. This means that AMBOSS NEJM Knowledge+ Internal Medicine Board Review represents a comprehensive survey of internal medicine. Medicine tests in general tend to feel harder to study for and take because they are ridiculously broad in coverage. Using Aquifer to Prep for NBME Family Medicine Shelf . Obviously, I was devastated because I completed all surgery uworld, all amboss surgry, read devirgillo and completed questions in the book, and took all nbmes. Now I'm feeling lost as I study for my first shelf exam and everyone around me is just hammering away at UW. Haven't taken Step 2 but I'm starting to prefer Amboss over UWorld for shelf exams, might hold true for Step 2 as well. The nice thing about it is it doesn’t strictly show you “surgery” questions. Just played it by ear. A lot of it was not far off from IM and I just had to read up on some of the Peds and OB stuff that I hadn't learned yet. I'm an MS3 at a mid-tier MD school who just finished both internal and family medicine. If you can finish these and review them thoroughly, you’ll be in a good place for the shelf. I really don't know how to study for these shelf exams. UWorld for IM is what will do the trick for you on SHELF and STEP 2; meticulous studying by for the IM SHELF will also save you a lot of cramming before the Boards. I finished Step 2CK and my uworld ran out so I don't feel like shelling out that kind of cash for a month of Uworld. ). All of online med internal ( and do first aid step 1 psychiatry) (take the loss on obgyn, pediatrics lol) I will be taking family medicine shelf again in July of next year, which is really far away. Will also probably do some of zanki's neuro deck. The test really isn't too bad, it was my first shelf of 3rd year and I walked into it only doing 300 questions from COMQUEST. 🏥 Clinical What are some tools To answer OP: do Uworld or Amboss, and for content review I’d use Boards and Beyond videos. Because it adapts to you, NEJM Knowledge+ will help you focus on the areas where you need the most review, providing efficient, effective preparation for the ABFM exam. AMBOSS makes the Medicine Shelf exam an easy pill to swallow. For topics that affect multiple systems, I tried to place them with the organ system that they affect the most. Archived post. The strategy above got me a 93rd percentile on the surgery shelf, so I can attest to it working. All of Zanki for IM. Dont use Anki and divine podcast puts me to sleep lol. My internal medicine shelf is quickly approaching. There's an index/reference and for you that's UptoDate, MedBullets, or First AID. Then there's Did you click on bonus supplemental step 2 questions, clinical shelf exam, bonus clinical shelf exam? I just checked my amboss: 4800 questions vs. My only suggestion is to use EVERY practice NBME for each shelf. Your grade in family medicine will likely be determined foremost by the evaluations you receive from your preceptors. Lots of military and risk factors. This is my first rotation and the shelf isn’t until the beginning of July. I got 2 weeks left to study for this. I have heard that AMBOSS gears itself away from the more common shelf questoins to more of the obscure/lower yield topics. IDK, listen to divine intervention. The more practice questions you do the better off you’ll be (as long as you I start Internal Medicine Monday. But you gotta do at least uWorld and if you have time you could fly through AMBOSS I used Amboss for my neuro and psych shelves. Medicine/Peds require you to know a lot of nuance had a lot of "Gotcha" questions which I hated. Did the practice NBMEs the week before the shelf. Was compassionate with myself if only able to get through 2. They’re like $20 each or you can find them online via FB groups for free if you have connections. I feel like he is really good for understanding medicine philosophy. What you can do instead is click Study Plans The only critique I have heard of AMBOSS questions is that sometimes they can be more "nitpicky" and throw in a ton of red herrings so they can be more difficult than the UWorld I’m just starting my third year rotations now, so take what I say with a grain of salt - I’m planning on doing some UW + all of Amboss for each shelf as well. What resources would be good to use? I used Amboss questions (50 topics for FM), U World FM, and UVA questions. If you are viewing this on the new Reddit layout, please take some time and look at our wiki (/r/step2/wiki) as it has a lot of valuable information regarding advice and approaches on taking Step 2 CK, along with analytical statistics of study resources. I got my highest scores of third year on those two exams. That attending played with my mental health and I struggled since then with extreme fatigue and depression. I took surgery right before my current rotation (internal med) however, I only got an 75% on my surgery shelf. Family Medicine shelf in 5 days. Got >90th percentile Your best bet is to go all in on questions and cut down on content review. While I do like these because I like to white board UWorld is much more valuable than Step Up for the internal medicine shelf. I plan to finish them both in the next 3 days. Neuro - as above. AMBOSS explanations place the answer in wider context, so you can better understand the concepts, whereas UWorld's explanations tend to fixate on minute details. For the second half (Peds, ObGyn, Psych), I used Zanki with my own cards. I did about 600 questions of mixed IM UW. Some days did 4. My school made UWorld mandatory for Step 1, and I hated it. Hoping someone can shine some light on internal medicine shelf for me. There were a few questions from obgyn, peds and internal medicine knowledge helps too. Peds - as above. I aldo did amboss (only got through 400 total in both q banks Family was my highest shelf and I spent weeks 1-3 doing a ton of AAFP questions then used weeks 3-6 to do family AMBOSS questions or UWorld internal med. I like it bc they're notes are very well written and easily accessible (unlike uworld). But if I had to choose between the two as my go to resource, I would use the UWorld questions — the AMBOSS library is still a great reference, however, to use while you study. Just took my family medicine shelf , got a 86. It’s about 5000 that are specifically tagged for IM. Hope that helps Uworld, if you have access to amboss do those questions Direct correlation btw attempted questions and final results (from personal experience) Also check Dr. You should be fine but a avg score over a few NBMEs would be a better indicator than a single NBME. Then I did as much AMBOSS as I could fit in. Navigate through the minutiae of the material with a Qbank featuring 1000+ NBME-style medicine questions. Reply reply Reddit's #1 spot for Pokémon GO™ discoveries and research. I have about 25 days to prepare for the surgery shelf. I would guess a mix of both qbanks is better than just doing 1 of them twice Reply reply Feeling the same way about shelf exams - feels like uworld, amboss give you all the pertinent info to rule out/in all answer choices. Guidelines! 3. I read all of pestana and did the questions in the back. Honored it and I'm an average student. I'm still 3. I have found that a few rotations it didn't fully prep me for shelf exams, but IM was pretty gigantic. Hi y’all, I was preparing to begin prep for my nbome fam med shelf that I take in one month. Reddit . It was so random that I cannot even recommend anything specific other than A and B screening guidelines and vaccines, tx for copd and asthma and fev1/fvc, step up tx for asthma, htn, diabetes. AAFP quesitons 4. Anyone have any particular preference and why? Not too sure why talk about shelf exam scores is unheard of everywhere I’ve looked but I have no idea how to interpret my score from my first shelf exam. I just took fm shelf today. That was a really successful formula for me. Did around ~400 questions in total for my studies. Log In / Sign Up; Finished the 480 FM questions on UW for family medicine. I finished Uworld internal medicine qbank today (woohoo). Expand user menu Open settings menu. For those of you on FM, I recommend that you use the topic list from AMBOSS and my tags to create a new family medicine deck. If you are viewing this on the new Reddit layout, please take some time and look at our wiki Honestly if you did the UW/Amboss study plans you'll be fine. Study internal medicine GI, cardio, and pulm. I did around 600 world questions, 300 Amboss and 4 NBME's scoring between 66-70. Top tips to impress your preceptors General tips I struggled with the Surgery shelf, and I had it a few rotations after IM (for which I didn’t do great, but solidly passed the shelf). Obviously your score the practice shelf could be inflated, but honestly the uworld/amboss percentages don't matter since they're just learning tools. (my messiest book. Of course Amboss/Uworld questions daily. with 2 weeks before shelf I realized I had the same problem and wasn’t scoring well on UWORLD, I switched over to that and I I think the surgery shelf is similar to the psych shelf in that the difficult questions will give you vague/unclear clinical scenario in which two answers could be plausibly right but you really are forced to make a gut decision. I have not honored any of my shelf exams and am always scoring in the 20 percentile range. So far, I plan on using UWorld and Zanki. Step Up is a good place to start, but if you're strapped for time, it doesn't get detailed enough. AMBOSS: I did a lot of questions the first few weeks of my block, but then used AMBOSS solely as a reference. These aren't necessarily "bad" scores by any means, but Know the preventative medicine stuff like the back of your hand, that will be 5 or 6 questions on the test at least. I tried Amboss for another rotation and it had so much details that seemed out of scope for the shelf. That said, AMBOSS does have a good “internal medicine shelf” mini-test thing that you can also take. Family Medicine Shelf: 89th percentile (85 on score report) Step 2CK: 4 week dedicated Resources: finished off remaining UW internal medicine questions and then exclusively focused on amboss. NBMES - Do all 4 of them. Taking the Surgery Shelf Exam Not all students have to take the NBME Surgery Shelf Exam, and it’s not obligatory for obtaining a U. Be the first to comment So I am one of the unfortunate people that got my surgery rotation before medicine and was wondering how to approach studying for the shelf. I didn't use it for shelf exams, but I know the Anking guy did it and aced all his shelves. USPSTF guidelines, like know them in and out. Appreciate any and all For Step 2 I just reset Uworld and made it through 80% of the Qbank and supplemented with divine podcasts/the book I used for internal medicine (first aid was not really good for step 2). Or Best resources for IM rotation/shelf . Currently on remediation, failed peds again. But I dunno. Also there are 2 uworld exams, 3 NBME exams (newer that reflect the actual difficulty of step 2 according to reddit), and the free 120. 5 as it is actually not a bad shelf to step into right after taking Step 1. Heres a free 2 week trial to check out AMBOSS-0YB9-SDZM-5R1T Internal Medicine: You can use Step up 2 Medicine to review the material, but I exclusively did questions for all the IM topics on AMBOSS (it’s under the topic “medicine” in AMBOSS). Hi everyone! I just wanted to start a new thread for internal medicine shelf studying. Internal Medicine (91) - as above. step up to medicine, and amboss. To make sure I covered everything I completed the shelf questions first and then did the remaining ones under Step 2. Right now, I have completed 2/3 of the IM q-bank on U-world OP, there are two types of resources you need as a 3rd year medical student. Or The new decks are internal medicine, neurology, psychiatry, and ob-gyn. Completing all that in 6-8 weeks is a grind. My school gives us a key phrase analysis, that i just happened to look at yesterday. Listen to the Divine Intervention Podcasts – paying close attention to the risk factors, biostatistics, and internal medicine ones, and you’ll be good to go. Of course, there are some easy questions that can be answered even without reading the whole stem, but on My school requires students to take an ambulatory medicine clerkship during 4th year. 510 MCAT (127+) with AAMC and Reddit resources possible without UEarth? I was in the low 70s. I have failed 6/6 shelf exams (FM, peds, obgyn, psych, IM, surgery). Unfortunately, my Uworld account has long expired. Coming from an M4 that honored every single shelf I’m here to tell you that all you need is UWorld and Anki (specifically Dorian’s M3 deck). Any tips on how to do well on the rotation while also passing the family medicine shelf? I heard about Dr High Yield and Emma Holiday on YouTube. You will face a shelf exam at the end of each of these rotations, so expect to have at least 7 General. Many call it Step 1. I think it was <20 questions. Just took form 8 of the NBME medicine self assessment and got a 20 as the medicine self-assessment score and a 73 for the approximate subject examination score. I have trouble passing shelf exams. I used only uworld and did really well on the shelf. I will be doing a lot of hard rotations in the next semester, so I wanted to start preparing for it ASAP. My IM rotation was very intense and I did not had much time to study specially on my second month where I had the worst attending in the existence of medicine. 🏥 Clinical Focus on uworld/amboss/nbme for fm, and know the usptf screeening guidelines Reply reply A discussion place for current and future internal medicine physicians. At the same time, internal medicine is known for being a busy rotation, and you’ll be busy on the wards and I’m a M3 and there is no guidance on how to prepare for Step 2 or even shelf exams I have a lifetime-ish (covers all of med school through the end of residency) subscription to AMBOSS and I’m really not hoping to spend more money since 4th year is going to be lots of travel. On Thursday I'd review ahead Th-Sunday. I just broke up the uworld questions into a block per day up until the last week. reReddit: Top posts of July 10, 2022. Each rotation I cleared all of combank and quest for the corresponding shelf exam and then AMBOSS if I had time for extras. Plus the knowledge bank is great. Or Anki cards that correspond to study plans on AMBOSS for Shelf exams? newbie For instance, on psych rotation and just did the mood disorders. It is a little bad because they'll rip questions from the NBME, which might inflate NBME scores, but for subjects like surgery or neurology where there's very few UWorld questions, what're you gonna do? How Many Shelf Exams Are There? There are 7 core clinical rotations: internal medicine, family medicine, general surgery, neurology, pediatrics, OB/GYN, and psychiatry. Ended with 85% on the shelf. Improve the time you spend reviewing every question and cross-reference other resources when needed (eg, AMBOSS library). I got a raw score of 83 but I’m not sure if this is a percent, percentile, or what this My clerkships were 7 weeks so i would try to get through all the cards the first 2 weeks, then just keep up with reviews and try to finish uworld by the end of week 6. FM: Mostly just used Blueprints and Case Files here. Members Online. Looking back, what would you do differently for IM shelf? did you use Amboss? many thanks! If anyone is in internal medicine like me, the hours are long so that means that getting through one block of questions per day just isn't possible. For surgery, I started devirgilio, but it’s just so dense. Anybody else have to do the shelf without UW and have any advice on useful resources? The Surgery exam is actually pretty much an Internal Medicine shelf exam in disguise (60-70% of the exam) because it involves figuring out the medical management of surgical patients (i. You can get free access to Shelf Exam/Step 2 CK Qbanks through Rosh Review. Should you get stuck at any point during your study sessions, smart features like the Attending Tip and the Highlighting Tool guide you through each diagnosis. There is a good chance you will get rocked on the questions without having done any internal medicine, so just use it as a learning resource and it will set you up well for the shelf. If you are viewing this on the new Reddit layout, please take some time and 2 CK, along with analytical statistics of study resources. No OME, no Amboss, no BnB, no books no nothing. They are very helpful and I got 6 qs on my shelf word for word from the NBMES Extras: AMBOSS - I didn't use it, but I've heard good things. My school requires us to take EM during 4th year with the shelf exam at the end. BUT CURRENTLY FREE cause they’re running a deal to introduce med students to their question bank. Members Online • Silver-Hour6468. Context: Medicine. In retrospect I wish I’d done a few more but I still did fine on both the shelf and step2. When you take out the neuro questions, there are about 1100 UW medicine qs plus Wiwa medicine has 3000 cards or so. Just know the basics of management don’t do a lot of world, my first name shelf I got like 37 percentile or something. Read bits and pieces of Step Up 2 Medicine for stuff I was having difficulty with. This is my first shelf, and I honestly don't know what to expect. Log In / Sign Up; I took it like 7 years ago but it was an internal medicine exam with patients who just happened to be having or just had surgery 42069blahblahbutts • Best way I can describe it is to say it’s more like a medicine shelf than a I scored between 102-114 on each shelf depending on how hard I worked. I haven't had internal medicine yet, which probably made it harder. Internal Medicine Deck Amboss - actually decent and useful for churning through questions and working on your clinical decision making. does this patient need medical management only cuz they stable, or do they need a surgical intervention based on vital signs, etc. I just did your flash cards,Amboss, and NBME. S. I feel the explanations are more concise, the plans are great for clerkships, and the vagueness of the questions are more inline with the NBME and CMS forms. Fire Cert Academy/NICET1 Next rotation is internal med does the ambulatory medicine uworld set fit better with that shelf or with the family med shelf? Skip to main content. I think it does a better job at breaking down question stems and answer choices. I then plan to take the 2 nbme practice exams and maybe do a second pass of uworld or try amboss. Obstetrics & Gynaecology I used UW and OME and tried to add AMBOSS as well. Then an anki deck premade on that book would be best. On the flip side, it is also not a bad shelf From what I've seen around, people say the FM shelf is just wack. AMBOSS is mainly used through anki but I often pull up topics when seeing an undifferentiated patient. Also did most of the AMBOSS questions about 3 days before the shelf. Perfect, thanks. I also honored the shelf with just UWorld and some AMBOSS. Preparation for your family medicine shelf should, at its core, include internal medicine shelf preparation; and make sure to review/memorize the USPSTF Okay thank you, you recommend jumping straight to 2/3 hammers. Get app Get the Reddit app Log In Log in to Reddit. It may be worth looking into. i’m in FM rn so i have an unpopular opinion but amboss FM is pretty damn good for shelf and prepares you well for step 2 not in terms of minutiae but the fact that the amboss q’s are total bumfuckery and it makes UW seem like arts class in kindergarten. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download is a subreddit specifically for interns and residents to get together and discuss issues concerning their training and medicine ADMIN MOD ABIM internal medicine boards correlation with UWORLD and MKSAP . Kaplan is out of touch with USMLE prep and obsolete in 2022. I made a mistake of making a separate anki deck of AMBOSS wrongs which I subsequently did not review again. Everything’s in one place. Try to understand the philosophy of medicine rather than just memorizing facts. UWorld covers more information, and especially if you do missed again at the end, nets you better recall. They literally reuse questions from the So far it's been alot of step1/internal medicine questions, is the Family Shelf like this? Has anyone used only the Amboss bank and did well on their I was going to finish Amboss qbank first before moving onto U World, but just noticed that U World has ambulatory medicine section for shelf exam prep. I did all of uworld and also did amboss. It is the single most underrated resource not just for step 1 but for learning medicine in general. But like I Not sure on Rosh Review, but just used Amboss only to study for my EM Shelf/COMAT. Could be worth doing sections after you cover them in DV. I've read on this subreddit that CMS forms are easier than the real deal, but today I did CMS Form 8 (IM) and found it not easy at all. it won't hurt to do them but you have 1k IM questions lol. Know your breast conditions like the back of your hand, AMBOSS has a lot of breast pathology questions OBGYN was my easiest shelf of all of them, the question stems were super short i had over an hour left to review my answers which never happened on any shelf. Most of my friends who got north of 250 on Step 1 ended up with 85-89% on the surgery shelf, with really intense For the first half of my rotations, I used my own decks. I have 8 weeks to study for the shelf and was wondering what I should do to study. /r/MCAT is a place for MCAT practice, questions, discussion, advice, social networking, news, study tips and more. Whereas the shelf questions are very vague, leave out tons of necessary info, and require a best guess after narrowing down to 2 or 3 answer choices. Surgery was definitely the toughest shelf out there. 3,500 questions (500 per Qbank) in Internal Medicine, Family Medicine, Emergency Medicine, OB/GYN, Pediatrics, Psychiatry, and Surgery. Reply reply More replies More replies Top 1% Rank by size. Grade still pending. Even if I had to rush cuz I wanted to get done I’d just do them and be sure to review them. I was curious about how you made the AMBOSS questions for those of you who used it? Basically I see 3 methods of approaching AMBOSS: Using the premade Study Plan Internal medicine shelf . Final Score: 268 I utilized AMBOSS for my family med shelf didnt find the qbank super useful (too many zebras), but found the knowledge bank incredibly useful to go over concepts and guidelines. Finish all of UWorld definitely. Looked up stuff on Amboss and UpToDate regularly through the rotation. Is that high yield for FM shelf exam? FM is so broad and I saw several posts saying that reading Ambulatory section of Step up to Medicine can be beneficial. Internal medicine at my school is very demanding so I want to use my time wisely. And in fairness it is just simply because internal medicine is essentially 60% of STEP2CK content. Along with De Virgillo, Pestana (reading), OME B&B BoardsMD (videos), which part of UW and Amboss qbanks should I focus on? Just the surgery questions (1200 across both platforms) or should I mix in some internal med with the surgery questions (around 2500). So far it's been dorian family medicine deck and uworld. Uworld vs Amboss 🏥 Med School is a subreddit specifically for interns and residents to get together and discuss issues concerning their training and medicine/surgery. People get similar results doing UWORLD for Internal Medicine instead and that works too, but I just liked how comprehensive and easy to access AMBOSS was. Our school is not giving us access to UWorld and Comquest (DO qbank) until later this month, but I still have a subscription to amboss from my step 1 studying. I do still have access to Amboss for a few more months. I had 1 pass through AMBOSS with a 48% average, & I’m 20% through uworld with a 57% average. Wanted to hear people's thoughts on whether to power through UW (~80Qs per day needed) I already have an AMBOSS subscription, but with the very limited amount of time we have to study for the shelf exams at the end of each clinical rotation (just whatever down time we have on our own), I'm really only able to work either I am days away from my Internal Medicine shelf (on Friday) and I want to make sure I strategize my last few days of studying. I also combined Internal Medicine and Surgery into one book because there were a lot of overlapping topics. And like the board exam and LKA™, it focuses on the clinical scenarios most relevant to primary care and hospital medicine. I started amboss for Step 2 studying. First 2 years of med school / Step 1 - I used Pathoma, then Bootcamp, and annotated in FA along with relevant/selective Anki. Best advice I can give for family med shelf ( most important listed first): 1. UW, CMS forms should be enough for IM, but if you want to do even more questions you could try AMBOSS library. Resources: UWorld (IM shelf bank + 1/2 of Ambulatory), Case Files Internal Medicine (did ~50% of it), USPSTF A & B guidelines, NBME practice shelf exams ("CMS forms"), Emma Holliday review Advice: If you have free time 1-2 weeks before starting IM, get through as much of Case Files as you can. Worth rewatching the day before the shelf (dont watch it for the first time the day before the shelf). Looking for advice on which would be best for shelf exams. It looks like I have 40 cases/400 questions to go through in Aquifer. . SERIOUS I have been looking for this answer while I studied from amboss learning cards for surgery and internal medicine and I felt they were really helpful as their qbank, but I feel for pediatrics (which i already studied with brs) and gynecology they're not as good and then i got more confortable studying from BRS and now with Beckmann's respectively, using for pediatrics Shelf-Life I would learn the concepts in Amboss/rosh because it’s good meeicine, but overall the shelf will be most similar in difficulty to uworld. It's great. I will say that in my personal experience I at least thought IM was less random than FM. Can anyone who's not an Amboss shill speak to how helpful Amboss questions are for the FM shelf? I'm not saying that you are u/RATPLANT_; I just know that sometimes when stuff gets asked about Amboss on here, a bunch of Amboss reps pile on. Thanks buddy. It’s kinda like Uworld/Amboss. Medicine has a beastly 1400 questions in UWorld. Last 2 days before the shelf, also review ahead the Anki cards for the next day and the 2 days after. What should I do now? More new questions (Amboss qbank) or re-review the Incorrects from Uworld? Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. How To Use The Divine Intervention Podcasts in 2022 for Shelf exams and Step 2CK/3 by Divine I just made a podcast (Motivation Monday) on the above mentioned topic that should answer many questions relating to how to use the podcasts to study for Step 2CK/3 and your shelf exams. Surgical tests seem hard if youve been doing medicine ones because they feel less cautious and seem to dive more for cut em open asap at least in comparison to medicine. Tried to do 3 blocks per day. Paediatrics UWORLD, OME, bits of Kaplan and AMBOSS. Hi! I have exclusively used AMBOSS for shelf exams (IM & surgery) due to the cost. My only regret is not switching sooner. I ultimately found success with the combo of Pestana audio plus notes (see if you can find more recent Kaplan Surgery notes for some updates), UW Surgery q’s, most UW GI q’s, and — very important for me — NBME practice exams with in-depth review. Was looking for tips on how to honor the FM shelf while also using this time to study for step 2. wbh nxbsv tcwkp pjxnd xoi urujx dfsvxpsy setwo vcoj zbb